The Cameron Roundtable continues today with our discussion of True Lies. It's an interesting film and ties into this sites ongoing Bondathon series. As always on Cameron Roundtable, we're joined by Max O'Connell of The Film Temple.
Loren Greenblatt: We just finished James Cameron’s James Bond movie. I get the feeling
that he was a little worn out after Terminator
2.
Max O’Connell: Well T2 was sort of a wrap-up
of all of the themes he explored throughout the 80s, and he handled it better
than most of them (better than any, in terms of the nuclear material), so it’s
understandable to see him go lightweight in terms of plot. He was also working
on the Spider-Man movie that he ended
up never making because he didn’t think the technology was up to speed. By the
way…he wanted Michael Biehn to play Spider-Man, which I don’t think would have
worked at all.
LG: Maybe
for an older Peter Parker going for his doctorate…
MO: And at
the same time he wrote Strange Days for
Kathryn Bigelow, by this point his ex-wife who I think he has a healthy
relationship with.
LG: But he
basically made a Bond film, and a very good one, to a degree. It’s a remake of
a French movie called La Totale!, which
neither of us has seen unfortunately. Arnold Schwarzenegger plays Harry Tasker,
a superspy in the 007 mold, he goes around doing spy stuff, but he’s also
married to Helen, played by Jamie Lee Curtis, who knows nothing
about his job. Also, he has Tom Arnold playing this really annoying partner…
MO: A
comic-relief character who isn’t funny at all.
LG: And
it’s not a bad premise for a film. He lies to his wife about his job (she
thinks he’s a computer salesman), and then he realizes his wife was lying to
him about something.
MO: It’s True Lies…a title that makes absolutely
no sense.
LG: Just
like most Bond films-perfect!. The
opening sequence is fantastic: Arnold does everything James Bond ever did in a
movie. There’s a gag ripped directly from Goldfinger,
where he comes out of the water (hey, a trope!) in a wetsuit and walks into a high class party
in a tuxedo. There’s a number of other Bond-gags: witty banter, there’s an evil
Bond girl he dances with that contrasts his wife, he fights with attack dogs,
he escapes on a snowmobile…what kind of party has snowmobile guards by the way?
MO: What
kind of parties are you going to?
LG: Well
I’m not very popular I guess. But it culminates it a great chase where he skis
down a mountain into a getaway car. At this point we already know James Cameron
does action scenes better than anyone not named Spielberg. It honestly outdoes
most of the Bond films, and part of the reason the film was a hit was the fact
that we hadn’t had a Bond film in a long time. The series had stalled.
MO: Timothy Dalton wasn't the most popular Bond at the box office.
LG: Plus
there where legal disputes. Anyway, there hadn’t been a Bond film in five years and True Lies filled the gap very nicely,
and it spoofs both James Bond films, Arnold’s action persona and 80s action
movies in general.
MO: Here’s
the thing with Arnold: he is not a normal person. He’s a big man, he’s got that
thick Austrian accent, and he needs to find roles that fit with his
larger-than-life persona. A lot of his best movies play with the fact that he’s
not normal: the first Terminator and Conan the Barbarian turn him into a
hulking monster. Commando turns him
into this ridiculous super-soldier that’s basically Rambo with a sense of humor
and less self-important jingoism.
Terminator 2 was released after Arnold was a big goofy action star, so he
becomes more likable and funnier. Total
Recall plays with the idea that he’s not a normal person by sticking him in
the real world, having him stick out like a sore thumb, and then telling us
that he’s really a super-spy, which really helps that film.
LG: Arnold
Schwarzenegger is one of the most meta actors in Hollywood. It’s not just that
a lot of his films are similar: he actively tries to work in references to his
previous films. When he and Tom Arnold go into the superspy headquarters, we
get a much better version of the X-ray vision from Total Recall.
MO: Well,
the special effects are better because it’s four years later and this tops Terminator 2 as the most expensive movie
ever made, around $102 million.
LG: The
man has expensive tastes.
MO: Well,
for Cameron’s process, it’s not a matter of “play around till we get what’s
right for the film”. What he sees in his head is what is going to show up on
the screen, and it doesn’t matter how much time it takes. He’s going to get it.
It can make him difficult to work with (see: The Abyss, Titanic), but he makes some of the most striking action
sequences ever. Pound for pound, True
Lies almost tops Terminator 2 when
it comes to eye-popping action sequences.
LG: In
terms of visceral action beats, True Lies
is a one-stop shop. But it’s a much lighter film, and ultimately, as fun as
the action scenes are (and they really are a blast), they’re not as satisfying
as something like Terminator 2, which
had much stronger, relatable characters.
MO: Right.
At the end of this film, Schwarzenegger and Curtis’ daughter is brought back
after being taken hostage by the terrorists. We have not seen her for about an
hour, maybe longer. She’s hostile towards her father, and that’s her character.
Eliza Dushku plays it just fine, but she has no chance to make an impression.
LG: And to
be fair, many years later she was excellent in Joss Whedon’s show Dollhouse, but she has very little to do
here.
MO: The
emotional undercurrent is missing here. Arnold and Jamie Lee Curtis have a
surprising amount of chemistry in this film, but it’s pushed to the side. The
first third of the film barely shows them together. The second third of the
film is a catastrophe. The last third shows them together, and it makes me wish
that that section was extended to a feature length film. We get to see her get
used to him being a superspy, and she comes into her own as a strong female
character. Jamie Lee Curtis is a fantastic actress with great comedic chops,
and she showed this in earlier movies like Trading
Places and especially A Fish Called
Wanda. She’s very funny in a lot of this…
LG: Even
in the worst scenes, she finds something to work with.
MO: She’s
quite good, but as appealing as they are together, there’s not much emotion in
their relationship.
LG: We
should mention that Schwarzenegger is the light of this film.
MO: He’s
great.
LG: He’s
very funny, he’s very relatable. A lot of people knock his acting range, but
he’s better than people give him credit.
MO: The man can do comedy.
He can do comedy like no one gives him credit. It’s unfortunate that most of
his straight comedies (Kindergarten Cop,
Junior, Jingle All the Way) are unfathomably awful, because he’s a great
comedic presence. This film doesn’t just give him great one-liners (“here’s my
invitation”, “you’re fired”). The way it lets him look at the camera, give a
sarcastic line to the villains, have great chemistry with the evil Bond girl
(played very well by Tia Carrere). Cameron and Schwarzenegger have a gift for
comedy.
LG: I love
Charlton Heston’s cameo as basically Nick Fury. He’s got the eye-patch and
scars, and he’s the head of a superspy organization.
MO: The
comedy and action are very strong, but the film has a lot of problems, not the
least of which is that it’s less intellectually exploratory than his other
films.
LG: The
film gets into a battle of the sexes when Arnold realizes his wife is lying to
him.
MO: In the
second act, he learns his wife is possibly having an affair with Bill Paxton, a
sleazy used car salesman posing as a spy.
LG: I do
find it interesting that she lies to him with cover stories, just like him.
It’s the essential metaphor of the film.
MO: Yeah,
which could be interesting, but they don’t do enough with that. The thing is
that the entire middle section is painfully misogynistic and mean-spirited.
It’s nasty and it’s not funny. It’s not funny at all. I found it depressing.
Every time I watch the film, I feel my grade dropping when it hits the middle
section.
LG: I
don’t actively hate that section as much as you do, but it’s not good at all, and it
drags the film down, every time Tom Arnold opens his mouth…
MO: He’s
terrible.
LG: He calls
all women “bitches”…
MO: I’ll
actually rephrase that: he has comic timing, but his presence, his delivery,
and his material is painfully unfunny.
LG: He’s
very concerned with the sexual awakening of Schwarzenegger’s young teenage
daughter in a very creepy way. He has a whole monologue about it. It’s clearly
a subject he’s put a lot of thought
into.
MO: Also,
it’s worth noting that Cameron, at this point, is dating Linda Hamilton, so as
far as we know he’s happy. Tom Arnold had just divorced Roseanne, and he puts
in an anecdote from real life where “the sick bitch even took the ice cube
trays”, which is not just unfunny, but it’s nasty towards women.
LG: Every
time he opens his mouth, he says something terrible.
MO:
“Women: can’t live with ‘em, can’t kill ‘em”.
LG: We
could go through a list here, but who has the time?
MO: And
he’s not the only sexist character. Bill Paxton’s character is supposed to be,
but it’s in the most tiresome way.
LG: Paxton
is the sleaziest lothario ever. He’s a cartoonishly evil car salesman…to an
irritating extreme.
MO: He
describes Jamie Lee Curtis as having “a pair of titties that make you scream
for buttermilk and an ass like a ten-year-old boy”.
We’ll let that sink in for a second.... |
MO: It’s
supposed to be nasty, but it took me out of the movie completely. And it’s not
the only awful bit in the second act. I lose sympathy for Schwarzenegger as the
film goes on. We have to keep in mind that this was made pre-PATRIOT Act, but
the way he follows Curtis around is just awful. This premise would have been
rejected by audiences on the spot today.
LG: As evidenced by the flop of a very similar film earlier this year This Means War. Movies like True Lies feel very transitional, it was a
very different world, it’s post-Cold War, we’re looking for a new boogeyman,
and Arab terrorists look like the big ones. But the film doesn’t treat them
very seriously. Now to be fair, as ugly and stereotypical as the film’s
depiction of Arabs are at times, the film’s main villain does have a legitimate
beef with the West…
MO: Yeah,
but it’s just thrown out in about a second.
LG: And
quickly forgotten thereafter. He throws in one sentence in the middle of a
speech, but he’s a psychotic Arab crazy man, so we're supposed to ignore it.
MO: And
he’s not a bad actor…
LG: No,
he’s good.
MO: And
the film isn’t trying to be offensive, but Cameron clearly didn’t take that
into consideration. There is a good Arab character on Arnold’s team, but his
part is so small it barely registers. In Cameron’s defense, though, he decided
not to do his planned sequel to True Lies
after September 11, because, in his words, “terrorism isn’t funny anymore”.
LG:
There’s also that weird section where Arnold hijacks the generically named
spy-organization he works for to follow his wife. It’s easy to understand his
anger, but the actions he takes are extremely immature, and he learns very
little from it, it doesn’t add to his character…
MO: And
the tone is all wrong. It’s supposed to be funny. Oh, and how about the parts
where they practically torture Bill Paxton till he pisses his pants (this
happens twice).
LG:
Torture is hilarious! Well, there is a torture scene late in the film that is
funny.
MO: But
that’s in the last third of the film when the movie is good again when the
action sequences start again. This includes an over-the-top one I like and you
don’t involving an uzi falling down the stairs.
LG: It’s
done in the most ridiculous way and it’s completely predictable.
MO: It’s
done pretty cleverly.
LG: That gag goes a bit far for me. She drops an uzi, it spins
in slow motion and shoots everyone but her even though she’s in the range of
fire. I can forgive lapses in logic in film, but my brain couldn’t be turned
off for it.
MO: That’s
fair. Whereas I can overlook some of the questionable racial politics (very
barely). You gotta love the balls it takes, even then, to attach a terrorist to
a rocket, say “you’re fired”, and shoot him through a building into another
helicopter full of terrorists.
LG: Today
that image is a little queasy.
MO: Oh,
it’s horrifying today.
LG: Put
your brain into 1994 mode and you’ll be okay.
MO: Now,
we have to talk about the striptease. Why don’t you talk a little bit about it
so I can talk about why I hate it.
LG:
There’s a scene right before the movie gets good again, Arnold realizes he’s
been a terrible husband, and he wants to give his wife the excitement she’s
been craving. She still doesn’t know he’s a spy or that he’s aware of her
almost-affair with Paxton. He uses government resources to disguise himself,
force her into a secret mission where she has to strip for a man in the shadows
(really Arnold). It’s a good scene and she’s sexy in it.
the set-up is queasy, and the end is very ugly and creepy, but Jamie Lee Curtis
is very funny in that scene.
MO:…she
plays it about as well as anyone could. She has that moment during the
striptease where she falls, which she really did but she played it off so well
that Cameron kept it in. And she’s a very attractive woman, there’s no doubt
about that. It’s not that the striptease itself isn’t sexy. Cameron directs it
well: his use of shadows in that scene is fantastic. The context around it?
Creepy and misogynistic.
LG: Yes.
MO: This
kind of scene handled well can be both erotic and frightening, like a David
Lynch film can do.
LG: I
don’t think you need Lynch…
MO: Ok,
but how about Paul Verhoeven, who would have made it so comically over-the-top
and overtly satirical that it’d be hilarious.
LG: Over
the top? Cameron pushes it pretty far…
MO: But
it’s nasty and mean-spirited, like the rest of that section of the movie, and
even when the film gets good again it never fully recovers.
LG: I
agree with you on the context. But as a scene unto itself, it works.
MO: Maybe
by itself, sure, but as part of a whole it doesn’t. It’s absolutely
unjustified.
LG: It’s a
very interesting shift for Cameron. His films up to this point all have some of
the strongest female characters ever put on screen, and then he does this. We
can understand Curtis’ actions, but she’s not a very strong woman for the vast
majority of the movie.
MO: And
it’s not like a fragile but resilient thing like Sarah Connor in the first Terminator.
LG: No,
not at all. When she’s put in these male-dominant situations where she has
little control, it’s an interesting shift from the lionesses of his previous
work.
MO: You
have to give this film credit for where it doesn’t go: it’s not a Michael Bay
film. The action scenes are great. It’s not jingoistic, it’s not completely
dunderheaded in its politics.
LG: It’s
never Michael Bay-misogynistic.
MO: The
sexism is pretty pervasive, but the women aren’t just guy-accessories, give
Cameron that.
LG: Even
though it doesn’t work, I think Cameron was trying to make a movie about a
relationship that’s in a weird place and try to have the characters move past
it. It’s handled badly, and it’s inadvertently sexist, but he’s trying to do
something better than that. It's basically something Mr. & Mrs. Smith did much better.
MO: There is potential. Schwarzenegger and Curtis have a Cary Grant-Eva Marie Saint
in North by Northwest chemistry, but
their relationship never quite gets there. At the end when Curtis becomes a spy
and they tango, it’s great (all of the dance scenes in this movie are great),
but it’s too little too late.
LG: Arnold
did all of his own tangos!
MO: And
they did most of their own stunts! That part where Arnold rescues Curtis by
picking her up and she hangs from a helicopter? That was real.
LG: When
the movie is doing action, it’s great. That scene with Arnold chasing the
terrorist on a horse is about as ridiculous as it sounds, but it’s goofy fun
and works as a spoof of the kind of films Arnold does when working with people
other than Cameron and Verhoeven.
MO: It’s a
great scene, and a lot of the film is terrific, but that middle section is
really a movie-killer.
LG: When I
think about the film, I always only remember the good parts and forget the
middle. And then I see the film and I go “oh…”. I didn’t mind it the first time
around, but the more I watch it, the more dire it is for me. I’m going to have
to give the film a B- overall.
MO: I’m
giving it a C+. The way I’ve always looked at it, B-/C+ mean essentially the
same thing. They’re equally flawed. But B- films narrowly get my
recommendation, whereas C+ films don’t quite cut it. I can’t recommend this
film. The middle is too dire.
LG: It’s
very dire and very irritating in the middle, but the action scenes are mesmerizing
for fans of the genre. If you want to learn about action filmmaking, you owe it
to yourself to see this.
Max’s Grade: C+
Loren’s Grade: B-
That's it for our discussion of True Lies. If you agree or disagree, feel free to post your comments bellow. You can like this blog on Facebook, and check out Max's blog, The Film Temple for even more awesome movie criticism.
Other Installments in the Cameron Roundtable series:
Xenogenesis
Piranha II: The Spawning
The Terminator
Aliens (Special Edition)
Reach
The Abyss (Special Edition)
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
True Lies
Titanic
Avatar (Extended Edition)
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